Re: [ietf-smtp] [Shutup] chained authorizationm, was Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers ...
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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] [Shutup] chained authorizationm, was Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers ...
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On 11/30/2015 8:21 AM, John Levine wrote: >> If you're relaying the email on to somewhere else then you're assuming >> that there's a mechanism by which your policy regarding SPF becomes >> known to those other people. >> >> I'm unaware of such a mechanism existing at the moment -- > > That's more or less what Authentication-Results and the deprecated > Received-SPF headers do, recording a snapshot of what the SPF results ... Probably relevant, current work: Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-andersen-arc-00 d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
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