Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5321 (5414)
Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Sun, 01 July 2018 02:10 UTC
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From: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org>
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 22:04:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5321 (5414)
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I might have DRUMS archived but would have to verify that I do and that it's readable by a client currently runnable. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2018, at 8:24 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote: > > Hi. > > Because I couldn't remember whether this was done intentionally > or not, I forwarded this to the ietf-smtp list. It appears from > discussion there that this was done (by the DRUMS WG) to align > the successors to RFC 821 with the successors to RFC 822 and so > is deliberate. It may be that DRUMS made the wrong decision > and that the empty construction that this allows should be > disallowed in both specifications, but that would be a > substantive change, not an erratum. > > Recommendation: > > (1) The erratum should be rejected. Like it or not, the ABNF in > 5321 is intentional, at least in part for consistency between > the SMTP Standard and the Mail Headers one. > > (2) If Mr. Romerstein believes that a Local-part of "", i.e., a > Mailbox that looks like ""@Domain, should be prohibited, I > suggest that he review the recent thread on ietf-smtp > (https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-smtp) and, if they > can be found and searched (I suspect they cannot) the archives > of the mailing list for the long-gone DRUMS WG to understand the > history of this issue. Once that history is at least > understood in general terms, an Internet-Draft that would change > this for both SMTP and Mail-Headers would be procedurally in > order. Of course, that is not a prediction that such a draft > will be successful in gaining consensus... I can't even guess at > that. > > best, > john > > > --On Friday, June 29, 2018 15:30 -0700 RFC Errata System > <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote: > >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5321, >> "Simple Mail Transfer Protocol". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5414 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Technical >> Reported by: David Romerstein <romer@apple.com> >> >> Section: 4.1.2 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> Quoted-string = DQUOTE *QcontentSMTP DQUOTE >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> Quoted-string = DQUOTE 1*QcontentSMTP DQUOTE >> >> Notes >> ----- >> As written, this allows for an email envelope recipient >> (Forward-path) with a NULL value for the local part of their >> address. This is a functional departure from similar wording >> in the preceding RFC 821, which defines quoted-string in such >> a way as to require at least one character that is not one of >> the surrounding quotation marks. >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, >> please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be >> verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the >> verifying party can log in to change the status and edit the >> report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC5321 (draft-klensin-rfc2821bis-11) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : Simple Mail Transfer Protocol >> Publication Date : October 2008 >> Author(s) : J. Klensin >> Category : DRAFT STANDARD >> Source : IETF - NON WORKING GROUP >> Area : N/A >> Stream : IETF >> Verifying Party : IESG > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ietf-smtp mailing list > ietf-smtp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-smtp
- Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC53… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC53… Randall Gellens
- Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC53… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC53… John C Klensin
- [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … Ned Freed
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … S Moonesamy
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … Ned Freed
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … Phil Pennock
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … John Levine
- Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC53… Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC53… Randall Gellens
- Re: [ietf-smtp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC53… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-smtp] the elephant never forgets, or DR… John Levine
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-smtp] FWD: [Technical Errata Reported] … Ned Freed
- Re: [ietf-smtp] the elephant never forgets, or DR… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-smtp] the elephant never forgets, or DR… John R Levine