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Re: [ietf-smtp] G.7.3 --- resolvable FQDNs

Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@courier-mta.com> Mon, 10 August 2020 23:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] G.7.3 --- resolvable FQDNs
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Michael Peddemors writes:

> On 2020-08-10 12:23 p.m., Claus Assmann wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, Michael Peddemors wrote:
>>
>>> There SHOULD be a URL that responds to http://example.com, where information
>>
>> This is e-mail, not some web stuff.
>> The contact information for various purposes are defined in the
>> RFCs (e.g., postmaster for e-mail).
>
> The reason is for all the people who are NOT engineers, have an easy way to  
> contact someone for ANY issues related to that domain.
>
> As well, with everyone hiding 'whois', and so many companies that don't have  
> a proper postmaster, or even check the postmaster mailbox, it does make  
> sense, which is why it was recommended as a best practice.

So, an anonymously whois-registered domains will be happy to put up a web  
site, at a well-known address, full of harvestable E-mail addresses, just  
waiting to be snarfed by spambots?

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