Re: New Non-WG Mailing List: NetSlices - Network Slicing

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Fri, 13 January 2017 17:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: New Non-WG Mailing List: NetSlices - Network Slicing
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On 13/01/2017 17:16, John C Klensin wrote:
>
> --On Friday, January 13, 2017 14:21 +0000 Adrian Farrel
> <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I hate to be a killjoy, but...
>>
>> Once upon a time the IESG used to supply a little text to
>> include in this sort of announcement under the "Purpose"
>> heading to allow us to work out whether we wanted to subscribe
>> to the list. Since network slicing seems to be something that
>> is done in a number of ways already, it would be nice to get a
>> handle on what the purpose of this discussion forum is.
> +1
>
> To say this a little more strongly, not only have we had
> examples of abuses involving IETF-hosted lists but the IESG has
> some responsibility to consider the time of the community a
> valuable resource and to be as protective of it when creating
> these lists as when proposing a WG.  There are lots of other
> places where lists can be created for discussions that interest
> the proposer; IETF non-WG lists should be created and announced
> only if they add value to the IETF community or (probably "and")
> the work of the IETF.   IMO, the IESG and individual ADs need to
> consider themselves accountable for the creating of non-WG lists
> and provide clear explanations of why the lists are being
> created and what they are about.
>
> I hope it doesn't take appeals of list announcements to
> re-establish that principle.
>
>      john
>   
>
John

I am sure the omission of a full statement of purpose was an accident or 
an oversight.

The Secretariat re-posted the announcement with the purpose stated in the
normal way at 1644Z.

The subject is clearly within IETF scope.

Stewart