Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rfc2119-update-00.txt

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 02 August 2012 15:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rfc2119-update-00.txt
From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:

> I written this draft starting a RFC2119 update for the reasons of
>> discussion threads in [1] and [2]. Please check draft and feedback,
>> thanking you.
>>
>
> I agree with what Paul and Melinda have said.  This document is pointless,
> as there is no actual problem that it's solving and no misunderstanding
> that it's clarifying.  Further, it's actively *harmful*.  It's arguable
> that 2119 already reserves too many words by giving them specific,
> normative meanings (SHALL *and* MUST; SHOULD *and* RECOMMENDED).  Adding
> IF, THEN, and ELSE would not only be unnecessary, but downright *bad*.
>
>
>
If I may quote Blazing Saddles:

Reverend!

("+1", for those unfamiliar.)

-MSK