Re: Ombudsteam update

Alissa Cooper <> Tue, 15 January 2019 17:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: Ombudsteam update
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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:32:26 -0800
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> On Jan 14, 2019, at 4:04 PM, heasley <>; wrote:
> Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 02:20:42PM -0500, John Levine:
>> In article <>; you write:
>>> Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:35:40PM -0500, IETF Chair:
>>>> The IETF ombudsteam <> is a designated group of people who have been selected
>>> to handle reports of potential harassment in the IETF.
>>> Why are these appointed rather than elected positions?
>> Beyond what Adrian said, the IETF has no elected positions.  
> ok, elected was a poor choice of words.  i did not know but 7776 tells
> who appoints and why there was no discussion or mention of who was
> under consideration.

To my mind the ombudsperson role is like a more sensitive analog of a WG chair role than it is like any of the positions we have for which open calls for nominees and candidate feedback are sought from the community. And in this particular case there was a bit of time pressure to find a community volunteer. We had a budgeting issue since Linda was employed by ISOC and under our new administrative arrangements that would have meant the IETF LLC would have needed to start reimbursing ISOC for her time and travel in 2019, which did not seem cost-effective.

I worked together with the existing ombudsteam to identify a few candidates whom the ombudsteam talked to before I made the appointment.


>> We have a randomly selected nomcom that chooses most of the other
>> positions, but the nomcom has no more expertise in personnel or
>> harassment issues than any other random set of IETF'ers.
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> John Levine,, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
>> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail.