Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Fri, 17 August 2018 15:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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From: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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Thank you Michael.
Seems that we are good.
Yours,
Joel

On 8/17/18 10:36 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
>      >     Does section 3.3.2 intend to mandate that devices have persistent
>      > storage for the LDevID?  Or is it trying to say that on power cycle it
>      > stays in Enrolled state if it retains its LDevID, but goes back to the
>      > Factory default state if not?  (Given that folks have repeatedly said
>      > that these may be low power devices, I think we need to be clear about
>      > what we are requiring.)
> 
> *) Constrained devices are not, in general, in scope for the WG
> *) Regardless, the LDevID needs to be persisted, and I agree we should say that.
> 
>      >     Section 5 starts by saying that the administrator does not have to
>      > configure security.  In the very next paragraph it says that a PKI must
>      > be in place.  That clearly requires configuring some security
>      > properties.  Please reword.
> 
> The administrator has to have a PKI.  We considered making the PKI
> auto-configuring, but we backed out of that as a hard requirement.
> I agree that this text need to be clarified.
> 
>      >     Section 3.3.2 in defining when a device is in the Enrolled state
>      > says that it in the Enrolled state if it has an LDevID.  As far as I
>      > can tell, the added constraint is that it is not currently a member of
>      > an ACP.  The text should include that.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
>      >     The third paragraph of section 6.1 refers to the Autonomic nodes
>      > and the ASAs as "self-aware".  I do not know what meaning is being
>      > ascribed to that phrase.  The usage does not seem to correspond to any
>      > meaning I can understood.  Can we just remove the sentence?  (I suspect
>      > that the intention is to lead to the fact that the functions can
>      > advertise their capabilities, and negotiate them.  We don't need the
>      > sentence as grounding for that.)
> 
> I think that the intent is to say that the ASA will have a model of itself.
> I think that it would be better to say that.
> 
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