Re: lots of dead addresses, was RFC793#ietf.org (was: Re: Proposed ietf.org email address policy)

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Fri, 11 June 2021 23:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: lots of dead addresses, was RFC793#ietf.org (was: Re: Proposed ietf.org email address policy)
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John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
    > It appears that Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
    > said:
    >> We might be able to pull this off, going forward, but we're doing
    >> AUTH48 on drafts in the 9040 range now. I'd bet that there are a *lot
    >> *of past authors who aren't reachable at an email address that the RFC
    >> Editor knows about for a variety of reasons

    > No kidding.  Every month I mail a survey to authors and document
    > shepherds of RFCs published the previous month.  The author addreses
    > are taken from the XML, the shepherds from the Datatracker.  Every
    > month a few of the messages bounce because the addresses are bad, even
    > though they presumably worked less than a month ago.

Why are you not using draft-foo.all@ for the survey?

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