Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Wed, 05 September 2012 20:00 UTC
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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:59:56 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: SM <sm@resistor.net>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site
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--On Wednesday, September 05, 2012 11:02 -0700 SM <sm@resistor.net> wrote: > At 09:04 05-09-2012, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> That's an interesting but not very informative statement. > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg71391.html Of course, there is a case to be made that, if we had a more sophisticated posting system that enforced the few rules we already have, it would not have been accepted and posted in the first place. Individual drafts are supposed to be title draft-OneOfTheAuthorNames-foo-bar-NN. This one didn't meet that rule. From the standpoint of those rules/conventions about naming at least, it is as if I posted something as draft-moonesamy-foobar-00 or draft-carpenter-barfoo-00 in the hope that would get extra attention. That said, the author in this particular case could presumably have posted draft-vesely-spam-reporting-using-imap-kleansed-00 and then persuaded the Secretariat that it replaced draft-ordogh-spam-reporting-using-imap-kleansed-00, thereby causing the latter to be removed from the _active_ I-D repository and moved off to the historical I-D archive. john
- Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Dr… IETF Chair
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Sam Hartman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joel jaeggli
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Scott O Bradner
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… IETF Chair
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Vinayak Hegde
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Scott Kitterman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Mark Andrews
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Morris
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Vinayak Hegde
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Ted Hardie
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Thomas Heide Clausen
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eric Gray
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eric Gray
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Jari Arkko
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Stephan Wenger
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Ted Hardie
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Ted Hardie
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Pete Resnick
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… ned+ietf
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Nick Hilliard
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Yoav Nir
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Barry Leiba
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eric Burger
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Melinda Shore
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Melinda Shore
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Robert Raszuk
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Borman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… ned+ietf
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John R Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… ned+ietf
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Barry Leiba
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… t.p.
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Sam Hartman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Hector Santos
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Melinda Shore
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Barry Leiba
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Kessens
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Kessens
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Bradner, Scott
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Lawrence Conroy
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… joel jaeggli
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Adrian Farrel
- The case of the expired I-D (was: Draft IESG Stat… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Dr… IETF Chair
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Jari Arkko
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Stephan Wenger
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Morris
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Pete Resnick
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Noel Chiappa
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Failing to convince an IETF WG (was: Draft IESG S… SM
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG (was: Draft IE… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG (was: Draft IE… SM
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG (was: Draft IE… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG tglassey
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG David Morris
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG tglassey
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Stephen Farrell
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Carsten Bormann
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Stephen Farrell
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Glen Zorn
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Simon Perreault
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey