Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site
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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:12:57 -0700
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Subject: Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site
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Hi John, At 12:59 05-09-2012, John C Klensin wrote: >Of course, there is a case to be made that, if we had a more >sophisticated posting system that enforced the few rules we >already have, it would not have been accepted and posted in the >first place. Individual drafts are supposed to be title >draft-OneOfTheAuthorNames-foo-bar-NN. This one didn't meet that Yes. >That said, the author in this particular case could presumably >have posted draft-vesely-spam-reporting-using-imap-kleansed-00 >and then persuaded the Secretariat that it replaced >draft-ordogh-spam-reporting-using-imap-kleansed-00, thereby >causing the latter to be removed from the _active_ I-D >repository and moved off to the historical I-D archive. Yes. Mistakes can happen. The expiration provides, to some degree, the ability to forget. Regards, -sm
- Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Dr… IETF Chair
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Sam Hartman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joel jaeggli
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Scott O Bradner
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… IETF Chair
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Vinayak Hegde
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Scott Kitterman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Mark Andrews
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Morris
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Vinayak Hegde
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Ted Hardie
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Thomas Heide Clausen
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eric Gray
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eric Gray
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Jari Arkko
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Stephan Wenger
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Ted Hardie
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Ted Hardie
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Pete Resnick
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Randy Bush
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… ned+ietf
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Nick Hilliard
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Yoav Nir
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Barry Leiba
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eric Burger
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Melinda Shore
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Eliot Lear
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Melinda Shore
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Robert Raszuk
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Borman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… ned+ietf
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John R Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… ned+ietf
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Barry Leiba
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… t.p.
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Sam Hartman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Hector Santos
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Melinda Shore
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Barry Leiba
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Kessens
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Kessens
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Bradner, Scott
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Lawrence Conroy
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… joel jaeggli
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Martin Rex
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John Levine
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Carsten Bormann
- RE: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Adrian Farrel
- The case of the expired I-D (was: Draft IESG Stat… SM
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Dr… IETF Chair
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Jari Arkko
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Stephan Wenger
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Joe Touch
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… David Morris
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Pete Resnick
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Dave Crocker
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Noel Chiappa
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Russ Housley
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… John C Klensin
- Failing to convince an IETF WG (was: Draft IESG S… SM
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG (was: Draft IE… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG (was: Draft IE… SM
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG (was: Draft IE… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG tglassey
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG David Morris
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG tglassey
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Stephen Farrell
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Carsten Bormann
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Stephen Farrell
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Glen Zorn
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG Simon Perreault
- Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG tglassey
- Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Interne… tglassey