Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as reference material
Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU> Sun, 01 October 2000 15:50 UTC
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From: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU>
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Subject: Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as reference material
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Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 11:16:31 -0400 From: vint cerf <vcerf@MCI.NET> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20001001111311.020b89d0@shoe.reston.mci.net> | I think the I-D are explicitly NOT public domain. As a general rule, absolutely, I agree. However, drafts that I happen to write which are WG output explicitly are public domain (they all say that inside them). See draft-ietf-ftpext-mlst-12.txt for a current example. Or any of the earlier versions of that doc, should you be able to find them. As usual, I probably wasn't being very clear in my message. I referred only to drafts I submit - I can't speak for what other authors do, or desire. kre ps: the ftpext mlst draft mentioned above also raises the question of why anyone would want to archive *all* old drafts - not having source material available has to be a problem to historians, and others. Having too much of it has to be just as big a problem. The only thing that having one of the old mlst drafts around would achieve for posterity would be to demonstrate that I can't count beyond 10 ... when someone pointed out that I was unable to count, an updated draft was submitted with "twelve" changed to "fourteen" which was really obvious to anyone was what it should have been (except apparently me).
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