RE: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as reference material
Christian Huitema <huitema@microsoft.com> Thu, 28 September 2000 22:20 UTC
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From: Christian Huitema <huitema@microsoft.com>
To: 'Bob Braden' <braden@ISI.EDU>, klensin@jck.com, lear@cisco.com
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Subject: RE: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as reference material
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:43:10 -0700
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> *> I would accept your interpretation if you can go to a > major search engine, > *> like Yahoo or Altavista, and find me in a brief period > of time ANY version > *> of Mike O'Dell's 8+8 proposal. Don't you think it > shameful that there is > *> no permanent record about a serious effort to deal with > a serious problem > *> (multihoming)? And this is a recent (read: current) problem! > > It is indeed shameful. One wonders why it was not published at an > Informational RFC. (It's not too late...) > > Bob Braden Hear, hear! In fact, we may want to create a procedure for "instant historical" publication, that would take such drafts and publish them as RFC because we believe that they mark important points in the public debate, and because we want to ensure that the experience is maintained. Like, a group of 20 (10? 5? 50?) IETF members could nominate a draft for immediate publication. By the way, to answer Elliot's question, it took me two passes to find the document in Google. His question, "Mike O'Dell's 8 plus 8 proposal", returned a pointer to the analysis document, http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98aug/I-D/draft-ietf-ipngwg-esd-analysis-02. txt (on an IETF server!) then, a query on Mike O'Dell's document's title, "GSE - An Alternate Addressing Architecture for IPv6", returned a pointer to http://www.grnet.gr/ipv6/drafts/draft-ietf-ipngwg-gseaddr-00.txt. Took about 30 seconds total. An amusing point: following an IPNG working group last call, Bob Hinden asked the IESG to consider publication of the analysis document as an informational RFC on January 7, 1999. Nothing happened... -- Christian Huitema
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Hal Murray
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… J. Noel Chiappa
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Dave Crocker
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… J. Noel Chiappa
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Dave Crocker
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Grenville Armitage
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Randy Bush
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Grenville Armitage
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… John Stracke
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Grenville Armitage
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… John Stracke
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Stephen Kent
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Melinda Shore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… RJ Atkinson
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Melinda Shore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Melinda Shore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… John C Klensin
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Melinda Shore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Greg Minshall
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: An Internet Draft as reference material Kurt D. Zeilenga
- Re: An Internet Draft as reference material Steve Conner
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Vernon Schryver
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
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- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Vernon Schryver
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Proposal to deal with archiving of I-Ds Keith Moore
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- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… John C Klensin
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… vint cerf
- Re: [Off Topic] contracts and etc John C Klensin
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Henning Schulzrinne
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- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Bill Manning
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Grenville Armitage
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Bill Manning
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Bill Manning
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Eliot Lear
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Grenville Armitage
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Grenville Armitage
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Bob Braden
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Grenville Armitage
- RE: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Christian Huitema
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Eliot Lear
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Betsy Brennan
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Grenville Armitage
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Kent Crispin
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- RE: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Dave Crocker
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… John C Klensin
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Eliot Lear
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Mike O'Dell
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Bill Manning
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Bob Braden
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Bill Manning
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Hal Murray
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Bill Manning
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Grenville Armitage
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Bill Manning
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Melinda Shore
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- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Melinda Shore
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- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Mike_Borella
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Vernon Schryver
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Kent Crispin
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Grenville Armitage
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Russ Allbery
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Garrett Wollman
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Keith Moore
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Garrett Wollman
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Mohsen BANAN-Public
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… John C Klensin
- Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as referenc… Eliot Lear