Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]
"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Tue, 27 November 2012 17:21 UTC
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From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>
Subject: Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]
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> I wonder how you measure/count "IETF participants"... > > Do you measure participants based on subscriptions to IETF > mailing-lists? -- If so, how do you assign a location to the plenty of > gTLD addresses? (including those at gmail.com) I'm guessing based on the mail I see on the lists I'm on and the drafts I look at. I really don't think there's a vast group of Latin Americans or south Asians or Africans lurking behind gmail addresses. As I think I've said many times, I think it would be great if we got more activity from underrepresented parts of the world, but the way to do that is to get people active on mailing lists and writing drafts, not to have unaffordable ICANN-style road shows. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.
- Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Adrian Farrel
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] SM
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] SM
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Yoav Nir
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] SM
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] SM
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] David Morris
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] joel jaeggli
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Randy Bush
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] SM
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Randy Bush
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Bob Hinden
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Melinda Shore
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Mary Barnes
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Bob Hinden
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Donald Eastlake
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Melinda Shore
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Vinayak Hegde
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Vinayak Hegde
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] SM
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Hector Santos
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Hector Santos
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] SM
- Re: how do Newcomers work in the IETF [Was: Evolu… John Levine
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] John Levine
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Yoav Nir
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Dale R. Worley
- RE: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Adrian Farrel
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Rich Kulawiec
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] joel jaeggli
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Yoav Nir
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Dale R. Worley
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Dave Crocker
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Stephen Farrell
- REMOTE PARTICIPATION TEMPLATES: was Re: Newcomers… tglassey
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Nick Hilliard
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carsten Bormann
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Dave Crocker
- Re: Newcomers Sam Hartman
- Accessible remote participation usability (was --… Dave Crocker
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Melinda Shore
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Melinda Shore
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Melinda Shore
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] joel jaeggli
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] John Levine
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Patrik Fältström
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carsten Bormann
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] t.p.
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Dave Crocker
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] John R Levine
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carsten Bormann
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Melinda Shore
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Dave Crocker
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Tony Hansen
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] John R Levine
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] John Levine
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Arturo Servin
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] John R. Levine
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Yoav Nir
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Tim Chown
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Fernando Gont
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] John R Levine
- Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF] Dale R. Worley