RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Project Management

linuxa linux <linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk> Tue, 11 November 2008 20:32 UTC

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From: linuxa linux <linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Project Management
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Correction 1:  "FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt)"

Correction 2:  "This is then your goal at the internet/web, it
then is also related to your passive/active goal beyond internet/web technical activities."

Corrected also at below emailed copy.


Regards
 

Meeku
http://twitter.com/nepotism


--- On Tue, 11/11/08, linuxa linux <linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> From: linuxa linux <linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Project Management
> To: ietf@ietf.org, unicode@unicode.org
> Cc: "Ruszlan Gaszanov" <ruszlan@ather.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 8:20 PM
> --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Ruszlan Gaszanov
> <ruszlan@ather.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Ruszlan Gaszanov <ruszlan@ather.net>
> > Subject: RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via
> Y2K Project Management
> > To: linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk, ietf@ietf.org
> > Date: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 9:36 AM
> 
> 
> 
> > .......... without messing up the registrations that
> > have been there for decades.
> 
> The proposal is for new registrations, why twist the issue?
>  Previous registrations would become sort after learning
> curve developments like I said to you.
> 
>  
> > ASCII is also *machine code* for goodness sake! You
> just do
> > not see it as machine code because virtually all
> software
> > knows how to translate it to something you can read.
> Any
> > information stored on computers and transmitted over
> digital
> > networks is *machine code* - it is only a matter of
> whether
> > your software can present this or that machine code in
> > human-readable form or not.
> 
> You are putting a molecular backend eye to ASCII, when you
> know quite well we are discussing from a user and practical
> layer, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ASCII_full.svg
>  That image shows you "Complete set of printable ASCII
> characters" and the letters are  roman/latin based
> letters.  These and a few symbols are what the frontend
> internet/web user sees / is able to see at the frontend
> layer.  I am concerned about the nepotistic network that has
> developed where a shortcut is being given to ASCII
> roman/latin character based language at the frontend layer
> however for the non-ASCII based languages the user gets an
> almost backend / machine code service.  Thus the proposal is
> to give a equal field where all users get a frontend layer
> service.  This proposal also would bring about MDN
> (Multilingual Domain Names) an issue that you are totally
> ignoring.
> 
>  
> > .......you can't just update
> > existing registrations to new format instantly on
> millions
> > of DNS servers all over the World operated by
> different
> > organizations. If ICANN starts doing that, the whole
> > domain-name-lookup infrastructure will submerge in
> complete
> > chaos for months, which would render the Internet
> virtually
> > unusable. 
> 
> However you are accusing without any technical basis and
> all your arguments are FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). 
> You know that IDN is based on ASCII machine code thus
> non-IDN / ASCII registrations should also use ASCII machine
> code.  You want ASCII at the frontend however you should not
> have a nepotistic service, quite the opposite you need to
> implement an equal service to all users at the frontend
> layer.  Thus you need to put the equal service for all users
> not that you give one user class a poor frontend layer
> that's almost backend machine code and another class a
> rich frontend layer.  Then there is a class that want MDN
> (Multilingual Domain Names) however you are basically say
> don't give them any service.  Thus your proposal is a
> nepotism one where only close conspiratorial charactered
> friends get a real frontend service and those that are not
> have to become close conspiratorial charactered friends. 
> This is then your goal at the internet/web, it
> then is also related to your passive/active goal beyond
> internet/web technical activities. 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Meeku
> http://twitter.com/nepotism


      
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