RE: Protecting Copyright.

[Khaled Omar <[e-mail]>]

> The IETF is not to make money. It is to contribute to the community with Interoperable Open Standards, the only way Internet could work.

So what is the difference between a legal organization and dorm room organization ?!!!

Is this means anyone can use anything regardless the copyright, why I mention my name at the last page of the draft, my address and my contact number?

 > You're free to not contribute. You're free to patent your work. Then nobody, most probably, will use that work for anything which is open, as the spirit of Internet.

Sure I have the right not to contribute, and at the same time, I have the right not to allow using my work for free.

Khaled Omar


-----Original Message-----
From: ietf <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:48 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Protecting Copyright.

The IETF is not to make money. It is to contribute to the community with Interoperable Open Standards, the only way Internet could work.

Similarly, as when you contribute to Open Source.

You're free to not contribute. You're free to patent your work. Then nobody, most probably, will use that work for anything which is open, as the spirit of Internet.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 28/4/20 20:40, "ietf en nombre de Khaled Omar" <[e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]> escribió:

    So what are the benefits for this development that comes to the author if his work can be stolen by anyone?

    Why there is a standardization organization like the ietf?

    Is this means that any other organization can be established and use all the ietf related work and add the protection to its participants other than wasting their efforts? 

    Khaled Omar


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Pete Resnick <[e-mail]> 
    Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:10 PM
    To: Khaled Omar <[e-mail]>
    Cc: Lars Eggert <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
    Subject: Re: Protecting Copyright.

    On 28 Apr 2020, at 12:42, Khaled Omar wrote:

    > Is this means that anyone can use the contents of the IDs stored at 
    > the ietf repository !!!!

    Anyone who is contributing their work to the standards process can include derivative works of other items contributed to the standards process (caveat the information below).

    > So what is the copyright text included at the beginning and the end of 
    > each ID !!!!

    It specifically allows for derivative works. See BCP 78 (RFC 5378) section 5.3.c <https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp78#section-5.3>. By including that copyright statement (and not including any other limitations), the author has granted the right to make those derivative works.

    > Does this includes applying what is included inside the ID without 
    > contacting the draft authors ?!

    Yes. An author is allowed to limit the right to make derivative works (see section 6 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp78#section-6>, but I do not see this limitation in draft-omar-nep, which means you have granted the right to make derivative works to the IETF Trust, and the IETF Trust grants the right to include derivative works in new contributions to the standards process to other authors. There is no requirement for contacting the original draft author.

    pr
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