Re: NomCom selection Fwd: Notification for draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis-00.txt

[Mary B <[e-mail]>]

I have been participating in IETF for 25 years.   I did not serve on Nomcom
until I became Nomcom chair after 11 years in IETF.  I was not selected as
a voting member  until 12 years after that.  This is random selection works
- not much different than buying a lottery ticket.  If you want a
guaranteed slot, then you can volunteer to serve as chair.  If I hadn't
been chair, I would have been involved in IETF for 23 years before I served
for the first time.

Mary.

On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 10:44 AM Behcet Sarikaya <[e-mail]>
wrote:

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> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 12:57 PM Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
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>> Rob Wilton \(rwilton\) <rwilton=[e-mail]> wrote:
>>     >   * Making this a 2-year term is likely to make it harder to find
>>     > volunteers.  It many cases, it is necessary to persuade both the
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>> NOMCOM chair is already two years, with the second year being past-chair.
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>> I've argued for sliping it six months earlier, so next year's chair joins
>> the
>> previous nomcom around October as (non-voting) "chair-elect" to learn
>> about
>> process stuff.
>> My experience is that the past-chair role is largely moot by October.
>>
>> So, we'd never want/need anyone to serve two terms in a row.
>>
>> Also, I and many other chairs have gone from serving as a nomcom member
>> (me,
>> two years in a row) to being chair.  So I spent *4* years influencing who
>> would be on the I*.  Very interesting is that I got to see how choices I
>> made
>> came back two years later to be renewed.   Gosh, I felt like a really
>> proud
>> teacher or parent or something...
>>
>> I would also like to see a tradition of alternating genders for
>> nomcom-chair,
>> but I recognize that the ISOC president has a hard enough time as it is.
>> I don't think that we need to write any rules about how long, as I think
>> that
>> the ISOC president can apply good judgement.
>>
>>
>> (I've been on nomcom three times as a voting member)
>>
>>
> I have been attending IETF for 10+ years, fully registered and almost
> always completely attending  but I have been in nomcom 0, yes zero times as
> a voting member, I think that the algorithm is useless at least for me.
> Maybe we need a mechanism to try to eliminate repeat selections somehow, my
> friend Don, this is for you.
>
> Behcet
>
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>> Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting
>> )
>>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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