Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-Than-Light (FTL) Communication
Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Tue, 02 April 2013 00:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-Than-Light (FTL) Communication
From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
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RFC6921>It is well known that as we approach the speed of light, time slows down. AB> I know that time slows for something when it is in speed of light, but communication is not something moving. If the packet is in speed of light we may reduce the comm-delay but never less than zero. The communication times don't change if at least one communicator is not moving in light speed. My comment is that I think this RFC is not logical, and I don't understand its recommendations. There is no way that a packet can be received before send, packet-time never changes communicators-time while the positions of both Tx and Rx are semi-fixed (change is relative to communicators' times not their signal). I think the communication-times may change when the communicators are at/above speed of light not the signal/packet. Is my physics correct? AB On 4/1/13, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote: > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > RFC 6921 > > Title: Design Considerations for Faster-Than-Light (FTL) > Communication > Author: R. Hinden > Status: Informational > Stream: Independent > Date: 1 April 2013 > Mailbox: bob.hinden@gmail.com > Pages: 7 > Characters: 15100 > Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None > > I-D Tag: draft-hinden-FTL-design-considerations-00.txt > > URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6921.txt > > We are approaching the time when we will be able to communicate > faster than the speed of light. It is well known that as we approach > the speed of light, time slows down. Logically, it is reasonable to > assume that as we go faster than the speed of light, time will > reverse. The major consequence of this for Internet protocols is > that packets will arrive before they are sent. This will have a > major impact on the way we design Internet protocols. This paper > outlines some of the issues and suggests some directions for > additional analysis of these issues. > > > INFORMATIONAL: This memo provides information for the Internet community. > It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of > this memo is unlimited. > > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist > > For searching the RFC series, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html. > For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. > > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the > author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for > unlimited distribution. > > > The RFC Editor Team > Association Management Solutions, LLC > > >
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… SM
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Ted Lemon
- RE: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… l.wood
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Bob Hinden
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Loa Andersson
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Dave Cridland
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Loa Andersson
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Steve Crocker
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… John C Klensin
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Ted Lemon
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Bob Hinden
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Dave Crocker
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Dave Cridland
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… James Polk
- Re: RFC 6921 on Design Considerations for Faster-… Brian E Carpenter