Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy-03

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Tue, 16 February 2016 10:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy-03
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Bernie,

On 02/15/2016 06:37 PM, Bernie Volz (volz) wrote:
> Perhaps we should get away from whether something is easy or
> difficult to implement or whether the algorithm may be more (or less)
> efficient.
> 
> I think the point of this material is to ENCOURAGE random assignment
> rather than sequential to improve privacy- so keep it at that. Let
> implementers worry about how efficient an algorithm is?

There are a number of operational and security/privacy considerations
that depend on the actual algorithm that you employ.

I'm not sure what you mean by "random". IID=random() everytime an
address has to be leased? -- or do you really mean "unpredictable"?.

At the end of the day, what you want is to specify desired properties.

Besides, assignment of sequential addresses should be banned. They have
always been a bad idea (see
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-predictable-protocol-ids>) and
they shouldn't even be considered an option.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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