Re: Reducing time to publication: was Re: FW: Last Call: <draft-farrell-ft-03.txt> (A Fast-Track way toRFCwith Running Code) to Experimental RFC
t.p. <daedulus@btconnect.com> Fri, 01 February 2013 09:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: Reducing time to publication: was Re: FW: Last Call: <draft-farrell-ft-03.txt> (A Fast-Track way toRFCwith Running Code) to Experimental RFC
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----- Original Message ----- From: "SM" <sm@resistor.net> To: "t.p." <daedulus@btconnect.com> Cc: <ietf@ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:51 PM > Hi Tom, > At 04:04 31-01-2013, t.p. wrote: > >Time to publication of an RFC can be reduced by cutting out the pauses, > >which could achieved by highlighting when they occur. > > [snip] > > >Such a list would shine a light on what is moving and what is not. This > >in turn would encourage, motivate, spur those on whom the draft is > >waiting to progress it (and anyone else who could contribute). > > There was an interesting quote from #overlyhonestmethods. I cannot > locate it right now as the web site is whaling out. > > There is a Daily Dose web page (see http://tools.ietf.org/dailydose/ > ). The web page provides a snapshot of what's being "published" in > the IETF. However, it does not provide a view of what is moving and > what is not moving. I don't have a view of what an area or what a > working group is up to. > > Sometimes it come as a surprise when working group participants hear > that their working group is being shut down. It is possible to tell > whether a working group might be shut down. It is possible to > identify some of the issues which can delay publication. The data > for what you suggested is available from the datatracker. The data > to identify WG activity is also available. I don't know how to > assess progress though. Yes, this is all available on the datatracker (which is the home page on my web browser) but it takes me several minutes to go there and absorb the content, repeated for every Working Group in which I am involved. The datatracker has too much information, I have to scroll up and down, since each entry takes 5 or 10 lines. My idea is a one line summary for each I-D, in a defined sort order (I-D name). And I know how much more productive I am when I get gentle prompts about what is going on, be they via SMS, e-mail or whatever. Sensible organisations, from libraries to garages, are making the most of this technology - we should do the same. Tom Petch > Regards, > -sm > >
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