Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives January 14
Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Fri, 08 March 2019 14:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives January 14
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
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From: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
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Robert, a search for "site:mailarchive.ietf.org" gives 5 results on both Google search, Bing and duckduckgo. I.e. the entire IETF mail archive is unsearchable via the most commonly used public search engines. Is there any way of resolving this? Nick > Robert Sparks <mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com> > 10 January 2019 at 15:29 > Thanks for the nudge, Nick. Some conversations started before the end > of the year had not run to conclusion. > > The robots.txt file has been changed, and some things put in place to > help the spiders find all the messages. > > RjS > > > Nick Hilliard <mailto:nick@foobar.org> > 8 January 2019 at 19:59 > > > Robert, > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/robots.txt includes "Disallow: /", which > means that the entire mailarch repository is unavailable on regular > search engines. > > This was reported in ietfdb ticket 2658. > > Are there plans to fix this before mhonarc is discontinued? It would > be hugely regressive for ietf mailing lists to be cut off from regular > internet searches. > > Nick > > Robert Sparks <mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com> > 8 January 2019 at 19:49 > We will be discontinuing Mhonarc during the day on Monday Jan 14. > > As noted below, all existing Mhonarc URLs will redirect to the same > message in mailarch. > > The mbox files available through rsync will continue to be available. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives January 14 Nick Hilliard
- Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives January 14 C. M. Heard
- Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives January 14 Robert Sparks
- Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives January 14 Robert Sparks
- Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives January 14 Nick Hilliard
- Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives January 14 S Moonesamy
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