Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives in January

Job Snijders <job@instituut.net> Tue, 27 November 2018 12:17 UTC

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From: Job Snijders <job@instituut.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:17:34 +0100
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Subject: Re: Discontinuing the mhonarc archives in January
To: daedulus@btconnect.com
Cc: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
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Hi,

Will the Mhonarc links continue to redirect to the appropriate places?

Kind regards,

Job
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 1:16 PM tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:
>
> Mhonarc works all the time.
> Mailarch fails all the time
> when using IE 8; the formatting is squashed up so as to be unusable.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Sparks" <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
> To: <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
> Cc: <ietf@ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:54 PM
>
>
> > The current plan is to discontinue Mhonarc in early January.
> >
> > Please continue to exercise the mailarch system and report issues as
> below.
> >
> > On 10/3/18 1:19 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:
> > > There have been several improvements to the mailarch tool recently.
> > >
> > > If you haven't already discovered it, please try out the new "Static
> > > Mode",
> > > particularly if you frequently use the Mhonarc archives.
> > >
> > > See, for example,
> > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/static/ietf/2018-09/>.
> > >
> > > To get this view by default when browsing lists, set "Static Mode
> On"
> > > in the
> > > Settings menu at top right of the page. This preference is stored in
> a
> > > cookie.
> > >
> > > Also note that the speed of searching a list, and searching across
> > > multiple lists
> > > has been significantly improved. The use of whitespace and fonts
> have
> > > also been
> > > adjusted.
> > >
> > > We are working towards a single copy of the archived mail list
> > > messages. Currently,
> > > mailarch and IMAP work from the same files, but MonArch uses a
> > > separate set of files
> > > in another format.
> > >
> > > We plan to discontinue the use of Mhonarc soon, likely between IETF
> > > 103 and 104.
> > > When we make that change, all exising URLs into the Mhonarc archives
> > > will redirect
> > > to the same message in mailarch as discussed in section 2.7 of
> RFC6778.
> > >
> > > Please exercise the mailarch system. If you find issues, report them
> at
> > > <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/newticket> and choose the
> > > "MailArchive: User Interface Component". Alternatively, you can send
> mail
> > > to mailarch-project@ietf.org.
>