Re: IESG meeting thoughts

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 17 May 2016 22:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG meeting thoughts
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 10:15:46 +1200
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On 18/05/2016 03:11, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>     > No pointers to the talk, sorry - Jeff was kind enough to speak without
>     > notes or slides, (which was great:-). He recounted the 1990's era
>     > history of crypto export controls, the issues covered in their "keys
>     > under doormats" report, [1] and some consideration of more recent
> 
> yes, It's important to remember that not everyone lived through that period
> of time.
> 
> A TED talk or something about that history might be neat to have to help
> socialize millenials about not repeating history.

Well, it seems to me that it's the NSA and their friends in the US Congress,
and equivalent forces in other countries, that are trying to repeat history.

On the other hand, we shouldn't fall over our own feet in our enthusiasm.
As Kamp says, "More Encryption Means Less Privacy":
http://dl.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=2904894&ftid=1700648&dwn=1

And as Gutmann says, "Crypto Won't Save You Either":
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/crypto_wont_help.pdf

    Brian