Re: IESG meeting thoughts

"Bert Wijnen (IETF)" <bertietf@bwijnen.net> Tue, 17 May 2016 11:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG meeting thoughts
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, "ietf@ietf.org list" <ietf@ietf.org>, chair@ietf.org
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From: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" <bertietf@bwijnen.net>
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Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:59:05 +0200
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thanks

On 17/05/16 11:57, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
> Hi Bert,
>
> On 17/05/16 10:41, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote:
>> Jari, would you have some more info (maybe popinters) about
>>
>>      The IESG also got an update on “Cryptowars” situation from Jeff
>> Schiller.
>>
>> When I look up "cryptowars" on google, I get many many hits on a wide
>> variety of "cryptowars". So I'd like to know which specific ones
>> were discussed or cause us specific worries.
>
> No pointers to the talk, sorry - Jeff was kind enough to speak without
> notes or slides, (which was great:-). He recounted the 1990's era
> history of crypto export controls, the issues covered in their "keys
> under doormats" report, [1] and some consideration of more recent
> events such as the USG/Apple case and how similar issues might play
> out in future. (My own not at all startling prediction: ongoing
> tensions between law enforcement and all of us working to improve
> security and privacy are sort of inevitable it seems.)
>
>  From my POV this was a great way to bring ADs who don't follow
> the minutiae up to speed on these topics, but didn't set out any
> particularly new direction for work in the IETF.
>
> (Thanks go to Jeff for the talk and to Kathleen who organised it.)
>
> Cheers,
> S.
>
> [1] http://115.69.40.134/files/editorials/files/MIT-CSAIL-TR-2015-026.pdf
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bert
>>
>> On 17/05/16 00:59, IETF Chair wrote:
>>>
>>> I wanted to share some of my thoughts from a retreat we had with the
>>> IESG last week. This time our meeting discussed topics around IETF and
>>> Bluetooth collaboration, Internet privacy, IETF working group
>>> charters, the RFC series, area director job descriptions, mentoring,
>>> and many others.
>>>
>>> Here is the article:
>>>
>>>     https://www.ietf.org/blog/2016/05/iesg-retreat-2/
>>>
>>> Jari Arkko, IETF Chair
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>