Re: NOMCOM 2013-14 Volunteering - 3rd and Final Call for Volunteers

Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Tue, 02 July 2013 16:59 UTC

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From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:59:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: NOMCOM 2013-14 Volunteering - 3rd and Final Call for Volunteers
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Hi,

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, NomCom Chair 2013
<nomcom-chair-2013@ietf.org> wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>
> We are short of our goal of 200 volunteers for the upcoming nomcom.
> Please do volunteer.  Our publicly verifiable random algorithm has fully
> adequate entropy for a flood of volunteers - more names, more names, more
> names, more brains --- er, oops, not yet a zombie.
>
> The more volunteers we get, the better chance we have of choosing a
> random yet representative cross section of the IETF.  Respond to this
> challenge and strengthen our statistical significance just by hitting
> Reply (but not Reply-All, please).

The "goal" of 200 volunteers seems totally arbitrary to me. I
understand that there is a wide range of opinions here, but I do not
believe that the noncom is intended to be or should be a
"representative" sample from those who just barely qualify as eligible
to be volunteers under the current rules.

Why is the "quality" of volunteers ignored in comparison with the
quantity? No doubt many will strongly object to my use of "quality"
but by that I mean understanding of the IETF culture and the IETF goal
of benefiting the Internet community and a goodly amount of experience
with IETF processes.

For example, producing RFCs is clearly a large part of the IETF. Let's
assume that, under current conditions, using only recent attendance as
a qualifying criterion, we can get ~200 eligible volunteers but that
adding the additional restriction that volunteers must have been a
front page author/editor of an RFC issued within the past X years for
some X would reduce the number of eligible volunteers to ~100. While I
admit there is some volunteer pool size that would be "too small" (40?
opinions will differ), my opinion is that 100 is more than enough and
that such a change, to produce a pool of stronger and better qualified
volunteers, would be an improvement.

Thanks,
Donald
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 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
 d3e3e3@gmail.com

> Oh, first, please do check the official information:
> The IETF nominating committee (nomcom) process for 2013-14 is under way. The
> IETF nomcom appoints folks to fill the open slots on the IAOC, the IAB,
> and the IESG. Ten voting members for the nomcom are selected in a verifiably
> random way from a pool of volunteers.
>
> The details of the selection and operation of the nomcom can be found
> in RFCs 3777, 5078, 5633, 5680, and 6859.  Four of those RFCs  (3777, 5633,
> 5680 and 6859)  comprise BCP 10. We will also reference RFC 3797.
>
> Volunteers must have attended 3 of the past 5 IETF meetings.  As specified in
> RFC 3777, that means three out of the five past meetings up to the time this
> email announcement goes out to start the solicitation of volunteers. The five
> meetings out of which you must have attended three are IETF 82, 83, 84, 85, 86.
>
> If you qualify, reply to this email and volunteer.
>
> The list of people and posts whose terms end with the March 2014 IETF
> meeting, and thus the positions for which this nomcom is responsible, are
> IAOC:
> Chris Griffiths
>
> IAB:
> Bernard Aboba
> Marc Blanchet
> Ross Callon
> Eliot Lear
> Hannes Tschofenig
>
> IESG:
> Barry Leiba (Applications)
> Brian Haberman (Internet)
> Benoit Claise (Operations and Management)
> Gonzalo Camarillo (RAI)
> Stewart Bryant (Routing)
> Sean Turner (Security)
> Martin Stiemerling (Transport)
>
> The primary activity for this nomcom will begin in July 2013 and should be
> completed in January 2014.  Being a nomcom member will require some time
> commitment - there will be interviews with candidates at meetings, regularly
> scheduled conference calls to ensure progress, collection and review of
> requirements from the commitment, review of candidate questionnaires and
> of community feedback.  A more detailed timetable for the nomcom tasks
> will appear soon.
>
> Please respond to this email before 23:59 EDT (UTC -4 hours)
> July 04, 2013.  In the body include:
>  1. your Given Name as you enter it when you register for the IETF
>  2. your Family Name as you enter it when you register for the IETF
>  3. your current primary affilation (the information you enter into the Company field)
>  4. any/all email addresses you've used to register for IETF meetings
>  5. which email address you prefer
>  6. your phone number (for our use in confirming you if selected).
>
> On July 05, 2013 there will be an announcement of validated volunteers.  If you
> haven't received an acknowledgement message from me to your email
> (indicating that you are or are not eligible) and you do not see your name
> in the July 05 list, contact me AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, on or before July 06.
>
> Looking forward to adding your name to the "hat" very soon,
>
> Allison
>
> Allison Mankin
> Nomcom Chair 2013-2014
>