Re: IETF Endowment update

Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> Wed, 13 July 2016 16:37 UTC

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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:42:00 -0400
Subject: Re: IETF Endowment update
From: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
To: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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John, Paul let me ask the obvious question.  What were you expecting the Open Internet Endowment to do beyond the IETF?   

Outreach to National Regulatory Authorities, for instance? Support for independent research beyond IRTF? Better funding for young technologists? 

It’s a serious question.  ISOC’s mission statement isself relatively amorphous.  

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On 7/12/16, 1:16 PM, "ietf on behalf of Paul Wouters" <ietf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of paul@nohats.ca> wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, John C Klensin wrote:

> I signed up for, and contributed to, the Open Internet Endowment
> based on commitments that its mission would be very broad, not
> be turned into an IETF support fund.  I don't believe donors
> were even superficially consulted about the change.  What would
> happen if I (and maybe others who feel the same way) were to ask
> for refunds on the basis that we never agreed to repurposing of
> the funds?

I am in the same position. I feel a bit weird about it. I would not
have donated if it was just for IETF - I'm already mostly self-funded
on that. So I was a bit disappointed when this initiative turned out to
be an IETF fund.

Paul