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Re: [secdir] Secdir review comments for draft-ietf-pim-bidir-08

Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Thu, 15 February 2007 01:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [secdir] Secdir review comments for draft-ietf-pim-bidir-08
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>>>>> "Steven" == Steven M Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu> writes:

    Steven> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:14:35 -0800
    Steven> "Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)" <jsalowey@cisco.com> wrote:

    >> I would like to understand better why ...  no automated key
    >> management is specified.
    >> 
    Steven> Do they cite any of the reasons listed in RFC 4107?

No.

Bill gave me a heads up about this a while back because I'd indicated
I would hold a discuss on the next document to do this.  I could not
get together the energy to engage with the WG and cause them to design
a security architecture for PIM.

I at least am planning to abstain on this document because the AD
tried to engage and I failed.  I don't think it's good technology for
this not to have automated key management though.

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