Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-norm-ref (Handling Normative References for Standards Track Documents) to BCP

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Mon, 26 February 2007 06:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-norm-ref (Handling Normative References for Standards Track Documents) to BCP
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Sam Hartman wrote:
> My strong preference as an individual is to approve this document as
> is.  I think there's a good split between RFC 3967 and this document.
> RFC 3967 will cover informational documents; this document will cover
> standards track.
>
> I'm not in principle opposed to having one document but I am opposed
> to the delay it would introduce.
>   

It's not just one more document.  We're working on at least a dozen, 
starting with RFC 2026, going on to various "IOPs", the boiler plate 
documents, IESG sponsorship documents, IRTF rules, and more.  One has to 
be an Internet lawyer to understand the system.

Eliot

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