Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft
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On 01-Aug-26 06:09, Laurence Lundblade wrote:
> My top-of-mind reaction: people are responsible for what they post.
>
> If someone is using AI well and their posts are good, great! If not, we’ll learn that and pay less attention to them.
>
> An important guideline: you are responsible for what you post.
This. You own your spelling mistakes, your technical mistakes, and any LLM hallucinations
that you transmit. And it is no excuse to say that the LLM messed up your homework.
Brian
>
> If you blast out lots of AI-originated text that you haven’t reviewed thoroughly and maybe don’t even understand, your credibility in the IETF is going to decline. At some level, not understanding what you post even becomes a basis for moderators prohibiting posts from you.
>
> LL
>
>
>> On Jul 30, 2026, at 6:20 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell=40cs.tcd.ie@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Myself and Chong Feng have posted an I-D [1] that (from two
>> pretty different perspectives) aims to progress discussion
>> of how we might better handle LLM text in IETF discussions.
>>
>> I think this'd be a fine topic for broad discussion. I do
>> not know what would be the correct mailing list for such a
>> discussion, but also think it doesn't warrant waiting for
>> another round of dispatchery before being discussed. (Nor
>> would any dispatch outcome above 'new mailing list' suit.)
>>
>> So, I'd be v. interested in comments on this and/or on it
>> being moved to some other mailing list for discussion. If
>> no existing list suits, I'd suggest humanorwhat@ietf.org
>> (which could be contracted to how@ietf.org:-) as a name
>> for a new list, but whatever works is fine.
>>
>> Meanwhile, we'd be v. interested in any comments here or
>> on the github repo [2].
>>
>> And of course, this is a v. rough thing, not intended to
>> be prescriptive or authoritative, so have at it:-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> S.
>>
>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fengfar-led/
>> [2] https://github.com/sftcd/led/
>>
>
- Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft George Michaelson
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Nathanael Ritz
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Nick Hilliard
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Orie
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Orie
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Nathanael Ritz
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Robert Sparks
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft John Levine
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft S Moonesamy
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Ignacio De Castro Arribas
- RE: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Andrew Campling
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Vittorio Bertola
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Laurence Lundblade
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Laurence Lundblade
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Toerless Eckert
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft S Moonesamy
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft George Michaelson
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft George Michaelson
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft George Michaelson
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft S Moonesamy
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Toerless Eckert
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Toerless Eckert
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Toerless Eckert
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Adam Wiethuechter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Jay Daley
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Benoit@everything-ops.net
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Andrew Newton (andy)
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Laurence Lundblade
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Jay Daley
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Nathanael Ritz
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft chong feng
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft chong feng
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft S Moonesamy
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Christian Huitema
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft S Moonesamy
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Ramesh
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian Campbell
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Jay Daley
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Laurence Lundblade
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft John Levine
- Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Stephen Farrell