Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-iid-registry-update-00
Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> Mon, 08 April 2013 13:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-iid-registry-update-00
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Alvaro Please can you add a line or two of motivation to the draft. I don't think it needs to be major text, but it will be useful to record the reason for the update to the registry. Thanks Stewart On 06/03/2013 15:05, Acee Lindem wrote: > I think the draft can talk to the motivation in general terms with the > embedded routing draft cited as an example. > Thanks, > Acee > > On 3/6/13 7:01 AM, "Stewart Bryant" <stbryant@cisco.com> wrote: > >> Chairs >> >> Please can you re on the question posed by Alvaro below. >> >> Do you have any objection to adding motivation text to the draft? >> >> Certainly I think it would be useful in IESG review. >> >> Stewart >> >> On 11/02/2013 21:15, Alvaro Retana (aretana) wrote: >>> On 1/16/13 5:17 PM, "Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ben: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Sorry for the delay, my filters put this in a different place.. I'm >>> explicitly adding the OSPF chairs. Comments below. >>> >>> >>>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on >>>> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at >>>> >>>> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>. >>>> >>>> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments >>>> you may receive. >>>> >>>> Document: draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-iid-registry-update-00 >>>> Reviewer: Ben Campbell >>>> Review Date: 2013-01-16 >>>> IETF LC End Date: 2013-01-24 >>>> >>>> Summary: This draft is not ready for publication as a proposed >>>> standard. >>>> There is a significant IANA registration issue described in the review >>>> body. >>>> >>>> Major issues: >>>> >>>> This draft carves out a significant part of a registry with an >>>> assignment >>>> policy of "standards action" for "private use". It offers very little >>>> motivation for the change. In my opinion, this sort of change should >>>> come >>>> with a clear justification. >>>> >>>> Specifically, the draft modifies the OSPFv3 Address Family Instance ID >>>> registry to carve out half of the unassigned space for "private use". >>>> The >>>> justification for this is a single sentence saying that some networks >>>> need to use IIDs to identify specific applications. I think that needs >>>> significant elaboration in order to motivate the change in a way that >>>> the >>>> reader can evaluate. >>>> >>>> My understanding from the OFPS list is that this is in support of >>>> draft-ietf-ospf-ipv4-embedded-ipv6-routing, which is an informational >>>> draft. I have to wonder why the draft under review was not simply the >>>> IANA considerations for that draft. >>>> >>>> I suggest one of two paths forward: >>>> >>>> 1) If this change is in support of that draft in particular, then this >>>> draft should say that, and include a _normative_ reference. I recognize >>>> the normative downref would complicate things--but I think that >>>> complication is reasonable under the circumstances. >>>> >>>> 2) If this change is to support a general need that goes beyond >>>> draft-ietf-ospf-ipv4-embedded-ipv6-routing, then this draft should >>>> describe that need in enough detail for people to think about it, >>>> perhaps >>>> with an informative reference to >>>> draft-ietf-ospf-ipv4-embedded-ipv6-routing as an _example_. >>> In short (from the shepherd write-up): "The new range is for >>> applications >>> that do not justify a standards track OSPFv3 Instance ID allocation. An >>> example would be "Routing for IPv4-embedded IPv6 Packets"". >>> >>> During pre-publication review, the WG chairs asked us to not include >>> explicit references to draft-ietf-ospf-ipv4-embedded-ipv6-routing as >>> that >>> is just an example and not the only potential user/driver. I don't >>> have a >>> problem adding an example, but I want to get agreement/comments/guidance >>> from the chairs before adding the text. Acee/Abhay?? >>> >>> >>>> Minor issues: >>>> >>>> -- section 3: >>>> >>>> I don't think it's appropriate to use normative language for IANA >>>> requests. Especially not "MUST". (I think the strongest thing we can do >>>> here is a polite request :-) ) I suggest recasting that to >>>> descriptive >>>> language, and removing section 2 and the RFC 2119 reference. >>> Yes, we already removed that in the -01 version. >>> >>> Thanks!! >>> >>> Alvaro. >>> >>> . >>> >> >> -- >> For corporate legal information go to: >> >> http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html >> > . > -- For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html
- Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-iid-r… Ben Campbell
- Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-i… Alvaro Retana (aretana)
- Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-i… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-i… Acee Lindem
- Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-i… Stewart Bryant