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Re: [IAOC] suggestion for the next IETFs

Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Fri, 31 October 2014 04:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IAOC] suggestion for the next IETFs
From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
To: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
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Hi Donald,

I disagree because IETF is benefiting from the world's participants
work and is working for better diversity. The submission of ID into
the IETF is a registeration of business with in the IETF.

If the IETF is based on remote participation and that it accepts work
from all the world, then it should be legal by law or business. IMHO,
The IETF only should issue letters for registered people or
participants with an ID submitted.

AB

IETF participant from Africa

On 10/30/14, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
> Note that this is sometimes restricted by national law. I believe if
> the IETF were to meet in Switzerland, it would be illegal to issue a
> Letter to be used as the basis for a visa application to anyone who
> has not already actually paid their registration fee for the meeting.

In switzerland it is important that there is business between the
attendee and the organiser. therefore, the attendee should
submit/register his/her work into the IETF.

>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> =============================
>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
>  d3e3e3@gmail.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org> wrote:
>> Allison,
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Allison Mankin <allison.mankin@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hosnieh,
>>
>> I think you have put your finger on something - if the current amount of
>> time is too short for visas to be obtained, then one solution is to
>> provide
>> invitation letters earlier, so there's more lead tmie.
>>
>> Adding a question for the IAOC - what are options for making invitation
>> letters available further ahead of a meeting?
>>
>>
>> We have had a page online where individuals could request a Letter of
>> Invitation
>> for meetings well in advance of the meeting.  For some reason the link to
>> it
>> vanished from a Meetings page, but AMS is working to get it restored.
>>
>> For an advance LOI one had to meet one of the following criteria:
>>
>> Author of a -01 or above version Internet Draft
>> Author of Working Group Internet Draft
>> Author of an RFC
>> Attended an IETF meeting since IETF 65
>>
>> I expect this will be restored this week.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Allison
>
>

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