RE: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power

"Das, Saumitra" <saumitra@qualcomm.com> Thu, 13 November 2008 18:56 UTC

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From: "Das, Saumitra" <saumitra@qualcomm.com>
To: Song Haibin <melodysong@huawei.com>, "p2psip@ietf.org" <p2psip@ietf.org>
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Subject: RE: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power
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Hi Song,

I agree that this could be used for various things like

1.       Overall overlay status information for the overlay deployer

2.       Peer selection for neighbor table entries by topology plugins

3.       And maybe also designating functionalities to nodes based on metrics observed

Yes, there are other metrics from comon related to memory usage, bandwidth use which may also be useful.

Thanks
Saumitra

From: Song Haibin [mailto:melodysong@huawei.com]
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Subject: RE: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power

Dear Das,

See inline.

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From: p2psip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:p2psip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Das, Saumitra
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power


Dear Song,



   Processing power would be more informational in terms of CPU load. A good example of what would be useful would be to look at the comon monitoring tool (http://summer.cs.princeton.edu/status/) for the planetlab testbed. It uses the following metrics for selecting nodes based on CPU and I have found such selection to be very useful in determining the performance of a slice on the machine.



[Song] It is also useful in selecting peer for a neighbor table entry, when there are multiple choices existing and for the overlay management to collect the overall status of the overlay.



>From the comon site, these are some metrics that may be useful



"CPU Speed
Busy CPU
Sys CPU
Free CPU
These fields give some insight into the CPU behavior of the node. The CPU Speed is just the speed of the processor in gigahertz. The Busy CPU field gives the % of time the CPU is utilized, and the Sys CPU field specifies what percentage of time the CPU is spending in the OS. Both of these values are the maximum values over the past 5 minutes. The Free CPU indicates how much of the CPU a spin-loop was able to obtain, giving some insight into how much of the node's CPU a new slice would receive."



We could define these fields and leave it optional as to whether all of them are required. i.e. running a spin-loop may be expensive for some devices.



[Song] This is helpful. I'm very glad to see this monitoring tool in the planetlab testbed. If it works well in the planet lab, we may have it included in the diagnostics draft after discussion. I also see other useful metrics for other parameters in the page (http://summer.cs.princeton.edu/status/)









Best,

Saumitra



www.saumitra.info



Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:12:21 +0800

From: Song Haibin <melodysong@huawei.com>

Subject: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power

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Dear all,



In p2psip diagnostics draft

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zheng-p2psip-diagnose-03.txt

, we have some doubt about how to describe one of the diagnostic

information: processing power. We propose to use the unit of MIPS to describe it. However, the Max number of connections may be another choice.

Do you have any good suggestions?





Best Regards,

Song Haibin

Email: melodysong@huawei.com<mailto:melodysong@huawei.com>

Skype: alexsonghw

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