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Matthias Leisi <matthias@leisi.net> Thu, 13 November 2008 19:04 UTC

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Andrew Sullivan schrieb:

> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg53776.html
> 
> For the impatient, one fundamental problem is that the current
> behaviour uses A records that do not contain host addresses, which is
> contrary to the definition of an A record.

And this counts as "fairly serious damage to the DNS protocol"? This
seems like a *tiny* bit exaggerated.

The suggestion to use a dedicated RRTYPE is nice, but many others have
failed in this endeavour before.

-- Matthias
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