Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD

Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> Wed, 06 March 2013 22:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD
From: Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
To: Spencer Dawkins <spencer@wonderhamster.org>
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Spencer Dawkins
<spencer@wonderhamster.org> wrote:
> On 3/6/2013 3:11 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
>
> On this specific point ...
>
>
>> Less likely, but still possible, a candidate may disclose
>> (presumably with permission based on the Nomcom's
>> confidentiality obligations when needed) truly confidential
>> material such as future job prospects or even plans within the
>> organization for which he or she currently works.  Again, if the
>> candidate can't be assured that information will be kept
>> confidential, with no pressure to disclose, we essentially
>> discourage candidates who have information of that type that
>> then cannot be revealed to the Nomcom.
>
>
> I've seen at least one Nomcom questionnaire that fell into this category, so
> I's suggest that John's point is worth keeping in mind.
[MB] I think that we can evaluate the questionnaires and decide how
much of what is currently provided to Nomcom needs to be public.  Just
as there is a section where nominees can include information that
doesn't get shared with IAB, they could certainly do so with
information they don't want shared with the community.  And, again, my
suggestion was that this information only be available on the Nomcom
wiki as is the public list of nominees, as opposed to publishing on an
open website or mailing list.  [/MB]
>
> Spencer