Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpgpkey

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Thu, 24 September 2015 14:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpgpkey
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
To: robert <robert.w.withers@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:02 AM, robert <robert.w.withers@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've sort of been following this discussion, not being too familiar with
> thinking about PGP. I did an S/MIME impl awhile back.
>
> I would like to propose adding 2 features:
> a. add a registry family that is self-signed and the members form a quorum
> for election and the family cert is distributed across many registries and
> there is eventual consistency.
> b. use a blockchain to make eventually consistent and authenticate the
> quorum of members of a self-signed family cert, published to global
> registry.
>
> I think you blockchain the self-signed, globally published family cert
> which contains quorum approval of additions and revocations of certs
> produced by this self-signed family cert with CA ability. I think that's
> secure without 3rd party CA/RevokeCertList (if IIIRC it's name).
>
> Do you think my proposal has merit?
>

Take a look at this, it gives a mathematical framework for that sort of
approach:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hallambaker-prismproof-trust-01


The Meta Mathematical Mesh is intended to work in that way. Just finishing
some code and producing initial specs.

Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpgpkey Stephen Farrell
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Dave Crocker
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Stephen Farrell
RE: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Christian Huitema
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… John C Klensin
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Eliot Lear
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Paul Wouters
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Philip Homburg
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… John C Klensin
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Philip Homburg
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… John C Klensin
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… John Levine
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Stephen Farrell
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… John C Klensin
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Sam Hartman
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… John C Klensin
Re: Summary of IETF LC for draft-ietf-dane-openpg… Viktor Dukhovni
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Paul Wouters
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… John Levine
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… manning
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… manning
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Scott Kitterman
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Harald Alvestrand
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… George Michaelson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… John C Klensin
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Joe Abley
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Paul Wouters
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Randy Bush
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Viktor Dukhovni
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Harald Alvestrand
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Harald Alvestrand
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Harald Alvestrand
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Randy Bush
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Philip Homburg
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Sam Hartman
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… John Levine
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Dave Crocker
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Paul Wouters
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Sam Hartman
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Paul Wouters
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Sam Hartman
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Dave Crocker
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… John R Levine
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… John Levine
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Sam Hartman
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… John R Levine
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Eliot Lear
Re: [dane] PGP security models, was Summary of IE… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… John R Levine
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Simon Josefsson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Sam Hartman
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Melinda Shore
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… George Michaelson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… John R Levine
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Paul Wouters
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Paul Wouters
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Paul Wouters
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Paul Wouters
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Simon Josefsson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Paul Wouters
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Sam Hartman
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Simon Josefsson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Dave Crocker
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Sam Hartman
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Dave Crocker
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Mark Andrews
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… John R Levine
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Tony Finch
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Simon Josefsson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Simon Josefsson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Simon Josefsson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… robert
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Philip Homburg
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Mark Andrews
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Simon Josefsson
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Paul Wouters
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… Dave Crocker
Re: PGP security models, was Summary of IETF LC f… robert