Re: tools.ietf.org -- basics not working?

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 15 October 2021 20:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: tools.ietf.org -- basics not working?
To: Havard Eidnes <he@uninett.no>, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 09:02:29 +1300
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Hi Havard,

I guess you missed this:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/0n-6EXEmkTp3Uv_vj-5Vnm3o0bo

It seems the IETF 111 deadline was missed, but I'm sure Robert will update us on progress.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 16-Oct-21 08:46, Havard Eidnes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is it just me who finds the basic functionality of
> https://tools.ietf.org/ has declined significantly over about the
> last half year or so?
> 
> My use of the web site is fairly basic:
> 
> - look up RFCs by number (I'm sufficiently environmentally
>   damaged to remember some of them by number)
> - look up internet drafts based on partial draft name
> - look up the RFC Index (for when the environment damage
>   mentioned above doesn't work...)
> - look up the Internet Drafts index
> 
> I used to be able to enter the RFC number (just the number, not
> having to prefix it with "rfc") in the "Doc fetch:" box.  This
> stopped working a few months ago, instead I now get a "404 Not
> Found" page.  On a previous exchange when I said that this
> stopped working, I was told "you need to prefix with 'rfc'".  Of
> course that also doesn't work anymore, if I try to fetch rfc1034,
> I also get a "404 Not Found" page.
> 
> The "hover text" for the "Doc fetch:" box says "Enter document
> number or name, rfc, bcp, draft-..., etc., and hit return".  I
> think that's what I'm doing, and ... it's not working for looking
> up Internet Drafts either, with or without the version number
> (which should not be necessary).  If I paste in
> "draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https" and I get back the same "404 Not
> Found" web page.  Of course just searching for "svcb" is met with
> the same fate, even though there's some probability that there
> aren't all that many drafts with that string in the draft name.
> 
> The "Documents" link just above the "Doc fetch:" box leads to
> 
>    https://tools.ietf.org/html/
> which redirects to
>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/
> 
> which is once again a "404 Not Found" page.
> 
> The same goes for the "RFCs" link, which goes to
> 
>    https://tools.ietf.org/rfc/index
> which redirects to
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/index
> 
> which results in an "Object not found", another way to emit the
> 404 "No such web page" error.
> 
> Yes, I have tried to report this to webmaster@tools.ietf.org,
> listed as the contact at the end of the page, but my latest query
> has now gone unanswered for a couple of days.
> 
> How did we get here?  Are the toolsmiths so busy doing other
> fancy stuff that the basics are allowed to languish on their own,
> unattended by the wayside?
> 
> Isn't this supposed to work?
> 
> Obviously, it's not, and I don't think it looks good.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - HÃ¥vard
>