Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-hansen-nonkeywords-non2119-04.txt

Theodore V Faber <theodore.v.faber@aero.org> Thu, 03 March 2016 17:44 UTC

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From: Theodore V Faber <theodore.v.faber@aero.org>
To: "dcrocker@bbiw.net" <dcrocker@bbiw.net>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-hansen-nonkeywords-non2119-04.txt
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On 3/2/16 07:02, Dave Crocker wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> G'day.  We'd like to see whether there is interest in getting the 
> enclosed published.

Quite excellent and useful.  A useful set of bits to be able to which
to redirect authors, to be sure.

I'm amused that it seems to already have reached version -04 and in
true bikeshed manner I'm going to suggest one more sentence.

If you skip abstracts, as I often do, the first section seems to not
frame the problem you're solving.  I'd suggest:

- ---
The IETF community tends to interpret language commonly used in
describing standards according to the rigid definitions of that
context.  Authors often find that this leads to misunderstandings and
misdirected discussions that can slow the exchange of ideas underlying
the document.  This document is a reminder of the language in question
and suggests some alternatives.
- ---

If you think that solves a problem that only I have, or that the
current more brief version is more effective, I'll neither fight the
authors on it nor be offended.


> The latest version works a bit harder to avoid appearing, itself,
> to be giving normative direction...

That was a second point that I enjoyed.

Write an RFC that prints itself.  It MUST be correctly formatted and
semantically clear.

- -- 
Ted Faber <theodore.v.faber@aero.org>
Engineering Specialist
Computer Systems Research Department
310-336-7373
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