Re: The "nomap" Network Identifier Suffix

Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> Wed, 27 November 2013 20:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: The "nomap" Network Identifier Suffix
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:27:17 -0500
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More of a reason for it to be at the 802.11 level, not SSID. Say what we mean, not just a hint.

On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:

> 
> In message <B939184E-AE28-44CE-A6E5-80EDB34E32CD@nominum.com>, Ted Lemon writes
> :
>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 11:52 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>> And it has the same problem as do-not-track, there's no way to tell
>>> whether people you don't trust are following it.
>> 
>> I thought the point was for it to advise network geolocation survey bots
>> that the hotspot with this ssid is mobile and can't be used for
>> geolocation.
>> 
> 
> The point was for it to advise network survey bots that the hotspot
> with this ssid can't/shouldn't be recorded in any database.
> 
> There are reasons to set this other than the ap is mobile.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Andrews, ISC
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