Re: Thingerdamerung (Was: end-to-end principle)

Randy Bush <> Thu, 17 March 2016 21:56 UTC

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> The home network architecture that makes sense to me is that my house
> as one or two dedicated device hubs that are always on and connected
> and every device I buy connects to them. Or a hub of my choice that I
> choose and can change at any time I like.
> What I have today is eight devices in my house that are each connected
> to a different service in the cloud that is proprietary and I have no
> control over. The gadgets I have bought at no little cost only work at
> the whim of the providers.

i tried and failed to communicate this in the pre-paris iot security
workshop.  this is related to the model that you do not actual own that
light bulb, car, whatever, you license use of it.

> If you RSVP, I can let the AD know what numbers to expect and that
> will determine if we meet in an actual bar or get a room.

get a room