Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, "The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship"

[Spencer Dawkins <[e-mail]>]

On 6/6/2013 8:12 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> -  3.3.1.4 says: Since it is
>     possible to participate in IETF without attending meetings, or even
>     joining a mailing list, IETF WG chairs will provide the information
>     to anyone who requests it.  However, since IEEE 802 work-in-progress
>     is copyrighted, incorporating material into IETF documents or posting
>     the username/password on mailing lists or websites is not permitted.
>
> That's a pretty bogus setup. I would think that if IEEE do want to
> share some or all drafts with us they could much more easily create
> a web page when those drafts are available without access control.
> Or we could if they didn't mind. (Or I could do it if there's no "we"
> that wants to:-) Asking IETF WG chairs to deal with passwords is a
> bit silly. I'm not objecting to this, but am suggesting someone ask
> IEEE if they'd like to consider the silliness here and fix it.

Hi, Stephen,

It's probably worth pointing out to the community that both IETF and 
IEEE 802 leadership have been looking at previous revisions and asking 
"if they do that, should we do the same?"

The most recent case I can think of was that IETF published a list of 
its liaison managers, while IEEE 802 did not - but review discussions 
prompted iEEE 802 to start publishing a list of its liaison managers as 
well. There have been others.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if either organization has run out of 
bogosity to fix, of course ;-)

Spencer