Re: [Manycouches] [112attendees] gather HotRFC problems

Sanjeev Gupta <ghane0@gmail.com> Thu, 04 November 2021 15:44 UTC

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 23:43:39 +0800
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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] [112attendees] gather HotRFC problems
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, 112attendees@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, manycouches@ietf.org
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FWIW, Gather closed a $50m Series B yesterday.


On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, 3:21 am Randy Bush, <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> when i saw that gather wanted to allow tracker/spies such as facebook
> to implant my browser, i left.  i am a bit shocked and dismayed that
> the ietf would patronize such a service.
>
> randy
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