Communications - Re: Ombudsteam update

Allison Mankin <allison.mankin@gmail.com> Mon, 28 January 2019 21:06 UTC

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From: Allison Mankin <allison.mankin@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:06:04 -0800
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Subject: Communications - Re: Ombudsteam update
To: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
Cc: IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>, Ombudsteam <ombudsteam@ietf.org>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>, ietf <ietf@ietf.org>
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Dear Abdussalam and Lloyd,

I too, in my ombudsteam role, think it wasn’t helpful to try to explain why
the term about “fear” was ok or common. Most, if not all, of the WG Chairs
and other leaders have had EDU team training that ironic idiomatic terms
should be avoided because of the many backgrounds of participating
engineers.

I will now send the IPWave WG Chairs a message asking them to underline
this principle to the WG mailing list and to the EDU team to remind WG
Chairs.

Abdussalam, send me and the ombudsteam a note and we can talk some more
about this.

Best,

Allison

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:36 PM Abdussalam Baryun <
abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>; wrote:

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> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:25 AM Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>;
> wrote:
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>> "Fear, uncertainty and doubt" is an informal industry expression
>> unfamiliar to AB
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> You have no right to write on the list about me, while I am not the
> subject but you are trying to make it. I am familiar more than you think,
> and I know that I was disturbed in formal discussions with unformal usa
> words. It is clear that IETF did ignore messages and I received number of
> apologies you may not be familiar what it means.
>
>