Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - 'conforming IPv6' - fe80::/10 vs fe80::/64
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Subject: Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - 'conforming IPv6' - fe80::/10 vs fe80::/64
To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>, Pascal Thubert <pthubert@cisco.com>
Cc: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, its@ietf.org, int-dir@ietf.org
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 08-Apr-19 21:18, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > > Le 04/03/2019 à 12:24, Pascal Thubert a écrit : >> Reviewer: Pascal Thubert >> Review result: Not Ready > [...] >> " >> >> This >> subnet MUST use at least the link-local prefix fe80::/10 and the >> interfaces MUST be assigned IPv6 addresses of type link-local. >> " >> If this is conforming IPv6 then the MUST is not needed. > > What do you mean by 'conforming IPv6'? > > The above phrase is a clarification of existing IPv6 specs. > > The spec in question is RFC 2464. I consider that to be what we need to > conform to. That spec says 'fe80::/64'. But that 64 is wrong. No it isn't. It specifies the LL prefix used over Ethernet. Since it is within fe80::/10, it's valid. I also don't understand the meaning of "at least" in this sentence. > Hence > the clarification. If you specify the prefix as /10, you have to define how the other 118 bits are constructed. Specifying how the final 64 bits are constructed is insufficient. Also, it seems to me that you should cite RFC8064 everywhere that you cite RFC2464, since the EUI-64 mechanism is now considered obsolete. I also think the citation of draft-hinden-6man-rfc2464bis is confusing, since it seems to be comatose. > > Do you disagree with it? > > (the reasons why I put there /10 and not /64 are the following: LLs work > in linux with any length between 10 and 64, the ND spec does not > restrict to 64, No, but IPv6-over-foo documents usually do apply that restriction, rather than define 118-bit IIDs. Brian > the IANA starts at 10, and probably other reasons; there > is a recent I-D about this LL prefix length: > draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len-07). > > Alex > >
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- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
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- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… NABIL BENAMAR
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- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
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- RE: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
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- RE: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Russ Housley
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… 神明達哉
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- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… 神明達哉
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Ole Troan
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Ole Troan
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Ole Troan
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Ole Troan
- RE: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Ole Troan
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… 神明達哉
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Ole Troan
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Alexandre Petrescu
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- IPv6-over-foo and Addressing Architecture (was Re… Suresh Krishnan
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- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… William Whyte
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… 神明達哉
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: about V2I to traffic lights controller Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-i… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Nabil Benamar
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early revie… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Nabil Benamar
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-38 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-38 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early r… Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-38 Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-38 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: side note RFC 4291 2nd par sec. 2.1 LL on loo… Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-38 Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Jong-Hyouk Lee
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-38 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: pencil and paper vs cars Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-38 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early r… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-39 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Expertise on ND problems on OCB Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early r… 神明達哉
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- Re: link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early r… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early r… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Int-dir] link-local text (Re: Intdir early r… 神明達哉
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-39 Brian E Carpenter
- draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb and draft-ie… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-39 Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: which BSM? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early r… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb and draf… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-39 Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par sec. 2.1… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-dir] link-local text (Re: Intdir early r… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: ND-over-OCB hidden terminals: truck obstructi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-39 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par sec. 2.1… 神明達哉
- Re: [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par sec. 2.1… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par sec. 2.1… 神明達哉
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- Re: [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par sec. 2.1… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb and draf… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-38 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: use-cases in Problem Statement Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: use-cases in Problem Statement NABIL BENAMAR
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- Re: 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: 118 Eric Gray
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- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Abdussalam Baryun
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