I-D.farrresnickel-harassment - timebomb

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Thu, 19 March 2015 19:54 UTC

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Version -06 of draft-farresnickel-harassment has this small phrase that was added in this version:


>   Any definition of harassment prohibited by an applicable law can be
>   subject to this set of procedures.

I find "prohibited by an applicable law" to be somewhat problematic and overreaching.

This should be removed.  If something is a violation of applicable law, then the folks responsible for that law should deal with it, not us.  We should be dealing with harassment that impinges on the IETFs creation of standards and not with harassment that has little or no nexus with the IETF.  

Mike