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Re: [Ila] [lisp] LISP for ILA

Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net> Fri, 16 March 2018 20:49 UTC

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From: Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:49:54 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ila] [lisp] LISP for ILA
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Uma Chunduri <uma.chunduri@huawei.com> wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ila [mailto:ila-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dino Farinacci
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> To: Uma Chunduri <uma.chunduri@huawei.com>
> Cc: David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net>; ila@ietf.org; Tom Herbert
> <tom@quantonium.net>; lisp@ietf.org; Paul Vinciguerra
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> Subject: Re: [Ila] [lisp] LISP for ILA
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>> A. Scalability
>> B. Security
>> C. Privacy
>> D.  Dos/DDOS Prevention
>>
>> While one can relatively handle #A and #B IMO - #C* and #D are still
>> the hardest problems (despite all the research).
>
> Was there a reason you singled out privacy and just didn’t include it under
> security?
>
> You can easily secure (origin auth, integrity protection, encryption,
> protection from reply attacks etc) all on the wire stuff with matured
> protocols from outside observers/from intermediate nodes in the network.
>
I can buy that, but then would wonder why you think Scalability is
easy :-) We're anticipating systems with many billions of mappings and
potentially high rates of change. No doubt were in the realm of some
seriously distributed databases!

Tom

> This is obviously not true w.r.t keeping the secured data anonymously.
> Remember the argument, how your provider itself is compromised (all bets are
> off)??
>
> A great reference to the privacy topic to me though:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6973
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> Uma C.
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