Re: [EAI] UTF-8 in Message-IDs consensus

Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com> Wed, 14 September 2011 22:03 UTC

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From: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>
To: Joseph Yee <jyee@afilias.info>, John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>
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Yes, that's my preference (capture it)

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From: Joseph Yee [mailto:jyee@afilias.info] 
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To: John C Klensin
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Subject: Re: [EAI] UTF-8 in Message-IDs consensus

Hi all,

My original thought (and a personal thought) is to capture it and think about it again after core doc.  So would all agree that we (the WG) just capture it in issue log (Trac) for now and think more about it when the time is right?  Unless the rough consensus is to put it into RFC4952bis.  

Best Regards,
Joseph, co-chair of EAI

On 2011-09-14, at 5:27 PM, John C Klensin wrote:

> 
> 
> --On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 19:17 +0000 Shawn Steele 
> <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm happy with this; I'm fine with any extra text being in the advice 
>> doc, unless it is very simple & quibble-proof :)
> 
> With the understanding that this should not affect the consensus call 
> results, could people clarify which "advice document" they have in 
> mind?  From a quick look at the charter, there are four
> possibilities:
> 
> (1) Reopen draft-ietf-eai-frmwrk-4952bis (now in the RFC Editor
> queue) and put text there.
> 
> (2) Advice for non-ASCII & ASCII addresses
> (3) Advice for MUA implementors
> (4) Advice for EAI deployment
> 
> Note that no I-Ds for any of the last three documents have been 
> posted, indeed, the WG hasn't made a formal decision to move forward 
> with any (much less all) of them.  We have decided to not make that 
> decision until the protocol documents are under control and we can 
> appraise how much actual energy there is to complete the work.
> 
>    john
> 
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