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Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-imapext-sort (INTERNET MESSAGE ACCESS PROTOCOL - SORT AND THREAD EXTENSIONS) to Proposed Standard

Mark Crispin <mrc@Washington.EDU> Mon, 03 March 2008 19:06 UTC

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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:06:29 -0800
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Washington.EDU>
To: Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net>
cc: Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>, ietf-imapext@imc.org, Dan Karp <dkarp@zimbra.com>
Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-imapext-sort (INTERNET MESSAGE ACCESS PROTOCOL - SORT AND THREAD EXTENSIONS) to Proposed Standard
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Dave Cridland wrote:
> Still, though, the presence of useless SORT keys would only be a significant 
> problem if they were especially difficult to implement, and the large 
> deployments of SORT indicate that they're not. Even if it's only PINE, that's 
> still a pretty vast number of users who may be relying on this behaviour.

+1.

It amazes me that this is even questioned, much less that the entire 
ietf@ietf.org list has been dragged into the fray.  This discussion 
belongs either in ietf-imapext, or if an appeal is to be lodged it should 
be made with the IESG.

-- Mark --

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