Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-kaplan-insipid-session-id-03.txt
Hadriel Kaplan <hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com> Thu, 22 August 2013 22:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-kaplan-insipid-session-id-03.txt
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On Aug 22, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > At this point I am half tempted to suggest that we just agree to publish the Kaplan draft as historic, and then close this WG. > > I say this because I don't think: > - we can reach agreement to make the Kaplan draft an RFC. We don't need to "reach agreement" to publish an Informational RFC. It's not standards-track, and not even a WG doc. All it was ever going to be published as was Informational, as far back as 2010. > - the current work is going to yield something > that will achieve its goals and be backward compatible I think it's premature to give up on it. I mean we haven't failed yet, afaik. We only really started getting down to the nitty-gritty stuff this past month. > - pursuing the current work with a new header name would > achieve wide deployment, given that a fairly large > community is committed to Session-ID. I think there might be conflicting goals/requirements within the WG. Fulfilling one might conflict with fulfilling the other. It's not just about backwards-compatibility, but also about the need for re-INVITEs/UPDATEs. A new header name might avoid those conflicts. For vendors that want/need to handle conference servers and updating all participants with the new correlation value, a new header would be usable. For ones that just need to correlate the basic call scenarios without extra messages, the legacy one would be usable. -hadriel
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… Hadriel Kaplan
- [Insipid] Are we getting anywhere? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Insipid] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-k… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)