Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 05 March 2010 15:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6
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With respect to the deployment of Mobile IPv6. I just wanted to add to this thread the fact that a "Mobile IPv6 (EXPERIMENTAL)" button exists since some time now in the main linux kernel. This is a great achievement for the Mobile IPv6 community, I think. Alex Le 03/03/2010 16:55, Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com a écrit : > > Mobile IPv6 (RFC3775) has been an RFC since 2004, and Dual-stack > Mobile IPv6 (RFC5555) since 2009. Implementations of the protocol > has been lacklustre to say the least. Several SDOs have considered > MIP6 and DSMIP6 as a solution for interworking and mobility between > different access technologies and only 3GPP has adopted it in a very > limited manner for Rel 8 (for use on the S2c interface) with the > likelihood of it being actually deployed quite low (IMO). > > While there are many reasons that can be attributed to the lack of > implementations and use, one that I would like to raise is the the > concern with the overly complex security model that MIP6/DSMIP6 > relies on today. MIP6/DSMIP6 requires IPsec and IKE/IKEv2 > (RFC3776/4877) to secure the signaling between the MN and HA. The > fundamental purpose of MIP6/DSMIP6 is to provide mobility to hosts. > At a very high level the MIP6/DSMIP6 protocol boils down to the > ability to setup a tunnel between the MN and HA and update the MN > tunnel end-point whenever there is a change in the associated IP > address (CoA). The signaling to establish the tunnel needs to be > secure. But using a protocol like IKEv2 and IPsec to achieve this > security is just an overkill. It increases the complexity of the > implementation as a result of many factors that have been captured in > I-D: draft-patil-mext-mip6issueswithipsec and discussed in the MEXT > WG meetings. > > Given the objective of the protocol is to enable IP mobility for > hosts, it should focus on doing that well in a manner that makes it > easy to implement/adopt/deploy/scale. My opinion as a result of > implementation experience is that MIP6/DSMIP6 can be significantly > simplified, especially the security architecture. The protocol as > specified currently in RFC3775/RFC5555 is a kitchensink of features. > Getting back to basics of simply establishing a tunnel between the > MN and HA and managing that tunnel is all that is needed and would > potentially see the light of day in the real world. > > You may want to call it as Mobile IPv6-lite if you wish. But I do > believe that a simplification of the protocol is needed without > which I fear it will remain an academic exercise with many years > spent in developing a spec. I hope the working group and people who > are involved in mobility related work would consider undertaking such > an effort in the IETF. > > -Basavaraj > > _______________________________________________ MEXT mailing list > MEXT@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mext >
- [Int-area] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Int-area] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Ed Jankiewicz
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Int-area] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Wassim Haddad
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Wassim Haddad
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Hesham Soliman
- Re: [Int-area] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Sri Gundavelli
- [Int-area] RFC 4285 (was RE: [MEXT] Rethink on Mo… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Wassim Haddad
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Ahmad Muhanna
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- [Int-area] IRON/RANGER (was: RE: [MEXT] Rethink o… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Hesham Soliman
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Hesham Soliman
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Arnaud Ebalard
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Davis, Terry L
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Xiangsong Cui
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Tony Whyman
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Devarapalli, Vijay
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Devarapalli, Vijay
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Junghoon Jee
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Arnaud Ebalard
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Hesham Soliman
- Re: [Int-area] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Pekka Savola
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Tony Whyman
- Re: [Int-area] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Hesham Soliman
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Tony Whyman
- Re: [Int-area] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Alberto García
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Hesham Soliman
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Hesham Soliman
- Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6 Basavaraj.Patil