Re: [Int-area] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00.txt

Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net> Tue, 05 March 2019 15:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00.txt
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On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 6:21 AM Templin (US), Fred L
<Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to read this yet, but the AERO draft has for
> a long time  proposed including an IPv6 fragment header as the next header
> in an IPv4 packet (see Appendix A of 'draft-templin-intarea-6706bis'). Is what
> you are proposing essentially the same thing?
>
Fred,

Looks like it is for fragmentaton (ESP and AH are already extension
headers used with IPv4). Use of the fragment header with IPv4 is
compelling because it could address deficencies in IPv4 fragmentation
like the small ID field. It might also free up IPID to be used as an
IPv4 flow label (RFC6864 states IPID can be arbitrarily set for atomic
datagrams).

Tom

> Thanks - Fred
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Herbert
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:48 PM
> > To: int-area@ietf.org
> > Subject: [Int-area] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00.txt
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > The goal of this draft is to define a common (and hopefully feasible)
> > method of extensibility and netwrok signaling between IPv4 and IPv6.
> > The draft specifies two things:
> >
> > - IPv4 extension headers. Basically this is just IPv6 extension
> > headers that are recast to be used in IPv4.
> > - Encapsulating extension headers and trailing transport protocol in
> > UDP so as to make extension headers transparent to intermediate
> > devices that have problems processing them.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> > Date: Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:19 PM
> > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00.txt
> > To: Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net>
> >
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Tom Herbert and posted to the
> > IETF repository.
> >
> > Name:           draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh
> > Revision:       00
> > Title:          IPv4 Extension Headers and UDP Encapsulated Extension Headers
> > Document date:  2019-02-27
> > Group:          Individual Submission
> > Pages:          27
> > URL:
> > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00.txt
> > Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh/
> > Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00
> > Htmlized:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This specification defines extension headers for IPv4 and a method to
> >    encapsulate extension headers in UDP to facilitate transmission over
> >    the Internet. The goal is to provide a uniform and feasible method of
> >    extensibility that is shared between IPv4 and IPv6.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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