Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground locations -- submitted draft RFC.

Rob Brew <sputnik2012@gmail.com> Tue, 21 January 2020 03:13 UTC

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From: Rob Brew <sputnik2012@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 03:12:46 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground locations -- submitted draft RFC.
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Thank you both.

Looking at the artarea ietf page i can't find their mailing list.
Please can someone let me know it, or should i message the chair?

Rob.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:12 PM Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>
wrote:

> There was both the geopriv WG and the geojson WG. I would second Erik's
> recommendation to contact the ART area on this type of work.
>
> Regards,
> Brian
>
> On 1/20/20 4:01 PM, Erik Kline wrote:
> > Rob,
> >
> > As you may well know there was once a working group (geopriv
> > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/geopriv/about/>) where many similar
> topics
> > were discussed.  That's concluded now, but I wonder if your document
> would
> > be more appropriate for consideration in artarea or even gendispatch.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:22 AM Rob Brew <sputnik2012@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all.
> >>
> >> I have submittetd the following draft RFC for approval.
> >>
> >> Obviously whilst underground mobile phone users at public locations,
> such
> >> as the London underground, will not be able to know their GPS location,
> as
> >> the GPS signals cannot penetrate the earth.  I have submitted a RFC
> draft
> >> at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brew-intarea-underground-01 to
> >> bypass this problem, as well as a server application in Java at
> >> https://github.com/rydal/underground .
> >>
> >> As we know the IP Address contacting the server the server contains a
> map
> >> containing the GPS location of each underground site, as referenced by
> IP
> >> address.  The  returns the phsycial GPS location and name of the site
> as a
> >> JSON array.
> >>
> >> To prevent false servers reporting inaccurate information https can be
> >> used to verify the authenticity of the server.
> >>
> >> Providing this service to mobile phone user's without a current WIfi
> >> connection i propose going one stage further, create a hidden wireless
> >> network wih the name ".location". In cases where no GPS location can be
> >> found a mobile phone's GPS system can be programmed to seek such a
> >> network providing the same service.
> >>
> >> This would require alterations to th servics as provided by mobile phone
> >> providers such as Apple and Android.
> >>
> >> If you are interested in this concept please review it (and my code),
> and
> >> maybe it will become something.
> >> For a video demonstration of this service please check the link at the
> >> github site.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>       Rob Brew.
> >>
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